Bart Torvik’s analytics indicate some positives and some negatives ahead of the season
Even some of the most loyal followers of college basketball were surprised by a post on X depicting your Georgetown Hoyas as having the 13th most “talented” team in 2024-25 according to basketball analytics website BartTorvik.com.
The most talented teams in college basketball for 2024-25, via https://t.co/BisYiyTP7k pic.twitter.com/egvtl7Cjia
— College Basketball Report (@CBKReport) September 4, 2024
Indeed, checking in the right spots and sorting by “Projected Effective Talent,” one sees Georgetown ranked rather high considering where fans are used to finding the Hoyas on these analytics sites over the past decade.
Talent U — Bart Torvik does indeed have Georgetown ranked 13th in talent for 2024-25.https://t.co/NKx5Mke1F3 pic.twitter.com/yPUmXCwg9V
— Philadelphia Hoyas (@PhillyHoyas) September 5, 2024
Apparently, according to a 2019 blog comment from Torvik, “Talent” is “based on composite recruiting ranks weighted for minutes played.”
The other projected rankings for Georgetown look a bit less friendly, but the talent rating is great! Torvik’s projected record for GU is 15-16 (7-13 in the conference), adjusted offensive efficiency is #65, and projected adjusted defensive efficiency is #153 (still ouch). Other metrics like returning minutes (23.3%), returning possession minutes (30.6%), projected effective experience (1.18), and projected production from transfers (233) seem to be on par with the turnover to an expected new, youthful roster (still not published, yet).
On the other hand, with the nonconference schedule coming out recently, some folks are putting Georgetown in the “WTF” category for their strength of schedule based on another score from Bart Torvik’s metrics, Wins Against Bubble (WAB), which will be on the NCAA Selection Committee’s team sheets for the first time this year.
Georgetown falls into a category labeled WTF https://t.co/95jJqUKTzb
— Bobby Bancroft (@BobbyBancroft) September 5, 2024
PaintTouches identifies that “WAB is a mathematical formula that aims to project what an average bubble team would do in a given game and, ultimately, how a team compares against others in a season given disparate schedules,” which is a more precise measurement than the traditional strength of schedule.
PaintTouches continues by calculating “numbers are what the WAB scores would be if a team goes undefeated in the noncon” and determining that “The Georgetowns of the worlds remain as basement dwelling empty calorie fiends.”
If it makes you feel any better, it’s actually a smidge better than last season’s potential WAB pf 1.60.
Still, this is rough even for a rebuilding year. pic.twitter.com/0CH9fRYAql
— Paint Touches (@PaintTouches) September 5, 2024
On X, PaintTouches acknowledges GU’s nonconference schedule is “a smidge better than last season’s potential WAB,” but this nonconference schedule is not going to do this #13-ranked-in-talent team—or any other BIG EAST team—any favors if things head toward the bubble.
Here are some links and posts:
Too many B12 presidents/ADs were skeptical on UConn. This falls in line with what we reported last week.
What’s more, sources told CBS Sports that UConn was/is locked into the Big East, per league bylaws, until 2027, not 2026 as previously reported.
https://t.co/lOxX9WkSQq https://t.co/kebhcg0zoq— Matt Norlander (@MattNorlander) September 5, 2024
Strong argument as the most talented group of 2026 & 2027s compiled on one roster when scanning the DMV.
▫️G’Town is 3 deep (HC Ed Cooley + 2 assistants)
▫️Michigan State associate HC
▫️Alabama AC
▫️George Washington AC
▫️American AC‘26 Qayden Samuels, ‘26… pic.twitter.com/kRSKA2MTO1
— Colby Giacubeno (@ColbyGHoops) September 4, 2024
Big Big ’25 man Marcus Ponder is getting @GeorgetownHoops love, having been offered by the #Hoyas @ZSmart914 ran it down https://t.co/jtIxNDJUv2 ($)@RivalsHoops @Rivals pic.twitter.com/Xo9R3kbLJI
— ron bailey (@HoyaNation) September 4, 2024
2025 4⭐️ Zymicah Wilkins (@zymicah_wilkins) tells me he will be on an official visit to Georgetown this weekend! pic.twitter.com/NN8tAp5PXk
— HS Top Recruits (@HSTopRecruiting) September 2, 2024
2025 5⭐️ Trey McKenney (@mckenneytrey1) tells me the following schools will be in for him this week!
Oregon
Georgetown
Michigan St
Michigan
USC pic.twitter.com/2oT2C5bt1L— HS Top Recruits (@HSTopRecruiting) September 3, 2024
Top-35 2026 prospect Latrell Allmond tells me that he has locked in a few unofficial visits for the fall:
• Tennessee – September 14th
• Rutgers – September 27tg
• Oklahoma State – October 4th (TBD)
• Georgetown – TBD pic.twitter.com/HUyNtWaAqV— Recruits Zone (@recruitszone) September 3, 2024
Happy Birthday in Heaven John Thompson
2× NBA champion (1965, 1966)
Honorable mention All-American – AP (1964)
Second-team Parade All-American (1960)
NCAA Division I tournament champion (1984)
3x NCAA Regional—Final Four (1982, 1984, 1985)
6× Big East tournament champion… https://t.co/Y2pJPs9V4h pic.twitter.com/EIdV9TEQP6— Yvan Montgury, The Gravedigger (@YvanMontgury) September 2, 2024
Looking good in green, @omeryurtseven77 #WeTheGreens #paobcaktor #LiveTheGreenMagic pic.twitter.com/RwoOuMfRRL
— Panathinaikos BC (@Paobcgr) September 3, 2024
HEATH UP
A 23 éves Jay Heath csapatunk legújabb érkezője. Heath kedden érkezik meg Szegedre, szerződése 10 napos próbajáték után válhat véglegessé.#szedeak #szeged #hungary #basketball pic.twitter.com/sFR14B6EDZ
— SZTE-Szedeák (@szedeak) September 1, 2024
The Orlando #Magic open training camp on Oct. 1 as Mac McClung (Gate City) will vie for a spot on the team’s opening-night roster: https://t.co/Mdn8alU2KV pic.twitter.com/WD9N5zIb9U
— BristolSports (@BHCSports) September 5, 2024
Back at it! #HoyaSaxa pic.twitter.com/OVxNibf98V
— Georgetown Hoops (@GeorgetownHoops) September 4, 2024